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    I put 9,000 miles on my mountain bike commuting to work and training on the west hills before I got a prissy road bike. In my mind a mountain bike with slicks is a 'True Oregon Roadbike'

When you are riding in foul dark rainy weather it is a joy to ride with abandon and just be safe. You do not care what you roll over because you are on a Monster bike. It's not fast, but it gets you there alive.

Lonnie Wormley

Hear, hear, Lonnie! So true. Mudguards, lighting, a bell, and a tailbag as well. A true urban warbike, ready to go to the places worth going. The elitists might snicker and turn up their noses, but hey, they're inside their car and _I'm_ riding...

Jason "WetBicycle is my AIM Screen Name" Penney

I have not been doing a lot of winter riding yet. I'm having both my bikes (road and mountain) overhauled during the Bike Gallery's 2 for 1 promotion. I'm having fenders put on both bikes.

I have found that when I get tired of the cross country ski machine at 24 Hour Fitness that mud helps build up your legs and is more fun. When it starts raining try riding Leaf Erickson in Forest Park from the Germantown side. By the time you get to the gate you'll be covered in mud and your legs and heart will be pumped. From there it is down hill to upper Thurman. If you're hungry head down to the health food store on Thurman and 23 and eat. Then turn around and go uphill to Germantown.

It is about 20 miles round trip and I've done this in 1.5 hours (not counting food stops) The key here is not speed, but how many mud holes you can crank through and keep your feet in the pedals. For those who want more of a challenge, try one of the fire lanes that go up or down from the main trail. Beware, some of these suckers are steep. I've done a few and going up is tough, but coming down is scary. Can we say broken collar bone scary.

If your bike is really dirty stop by the Fat Tire Farm bike shop on Thurman. Around back there is usually a hose that you can rinse your bike off. (The hard core types rinse when the ride is done.)

Be sure to wear neoprene booties and leg coverings. Even though it may not be cold the clean up is easier when you can peel some of the mud off in the garage.

If there are any 'Mudders' out there I'll let you know the next time I attempt this ride.

Lonnie Wormley

Been there, done that, threw away the t-shirt (it was never going to come clean).

It was FUN! Try Saltzman Rd. after a good downpour. Maybe it's been worked over by now, but it used to be just a collection of ruts with thin mud in them, punctuated by a few hidden, softball-sized stones to stop you dead in your tracks.

Scott Saulsbury

Well the Germantown Road entrance has been re-worked and is not as muddy as it use to be. The gravel that was applied to prevent erosion is finally getting smacked down into the ground to make the road 'mo muddy'.

I have not ridden Saltzman in a while. I use to bike commute it regularly in the summertime. The bottom part looks like it has a bit of new gravel on it as well.

Lonnie Wormley

I did not get out today...the kids, but I did pick up my two bikes. Since the gravel is out the sissy bike is on the hook for the season. The aluminum mountain bike now has full fenders (and a shock!). Mike at the Bike Gallery is a master mechanic when it comes to figuring out bikes.

I'm ready for sand, pot holes and rain. I've got inverted tread gravel tires with ceramic coated rims and Eagle Claw pads designed for the rims. All the road junk will not affect my stopping ability.

I do not have bike chains yet. I thought of buying some after getting half way up Cornell one January morning on my way to work. It was dark and my rear tire started to have traction problems. It was then that I realized I was on a sheet of ice. I turned around and walked down a few hundred yards. I saw headlights coming my way. I heard tires spinning. I saw a van go in a ditch 20 yards in front of me.

My lesson, I most likely can ride on ice with chains, but it is not smart to be on the road (even in a car) with people who do not know how to drive on ice.

I'll miss my Serrotta for a while. I'll ride it when the roads clear up (or if I drive to the next state of Woodburn to ride with Don), but this is Trek 7000 season here in the west side.

Lonnie Wormley

Brakes? Hmm.. Apply brake, slide wickedly, <*THUMP*> hear bone go <*CRACK*>. Bad Idea! Mongo stay home. Pain bad...

In my motorcycle days they (Mongo slow, not crazy) would use handmade spiked tires. The grip on ice was like nothing else anywhere. Snow itself is a lot like sand, grip is "fine" and your best bet is to get on top of it and let it undulate the bike under you. Ie: go fast, let it shimmy, and stay loose. (Not always option on a bike.) However, wide tires, big knobs work pretty good. I've slid around my neighborhood a time or two on the mtn bike with no bruising.

You can lay the bike out sideways to slow down for a corner. Ice on the other hand requires something to dig in. A chain on a car tire doesn't have to contend with much in the way of lateral Gs within a shifting center of gravity. A bike tire on the other hand not only deals with the lateral force but also the lean angle shifts its center. I should think a very precise and tight fit would be required for safe operation. I'd look for studded tires or the materials with which to stud your own.

I've ridden lots of miles in sand and fresh snow on motorized bikes. Both are a blast. I've crammed a roadway up my ass brutally on ice. That was not a blast.

Don "it was a pretty good landed fish impression though" Bolton

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